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Click, press the button bellow or any key to dismiss. Is PokerStars Rigged? Florian Gheorghe , 5 years ago. Photo: Fuckpokerstars. Now, is the whole game of poker rigged? Did you like this article? Articles 96 Joined PokerTube September Florian is a freelance journalist and avid poker player with a strong passion to create unique and appealing stories.
He is an experienced researcher on various topics, from business and the financial markets to psychology and the gambling industry.
He blogs at Florianghe. Read more. Comments You need to be logged in to post a new comment Login. Related Articles Online Poker , 3 months ago. Online Poker , 4 months ago. His other hands were AQ and AJ and he raised. They said we colluded together. There is no way we were colluding, we were just playing poker. They took our money and closed our accounts.
Unfortunately they are wrong and we never colluded, but what can u do? I'd give 0 stars if I could. With online gambling legal in Michigan now, I created an account. It takes 5 business days to verify my stupid road name. So I try a couple different machines and even blackjack.
No response after 2 days, so I call them, a customer service rep says for some reason I wasn't given the credit and should have been Where's the rest?
What the hell does that mean it expires?? I asked multiple questions including why is it gone on the 4th day? What about the extra I won with it? Pokerstars is an absolute scam. The only value of the site is lite entertainment. Under no circumstances should you risk real money on this site!!!
The runouts are all rigged to create the most buy backs I'm a mathematician, I got books on the statistical mathematics of poker. For example,I noticed immediately and mathematically clear and distinct patterns whether i lost a previous hand, tournament or game. Likewise clear and evidential hands after a win. You will notice how many rivers, and insane bad beats against new players or people who are weak players. I'm not hyperbole. It's not a fair system, and honestly pisses me off because ut is clearly not legitimate.
I would rate this lower if there was an option. Everything stated on this site true The algorithm is set to squeeze every last dime out of players pockets and to line the pockets of the executives. Take a look at how low the traffic is. Atleast most people are catching on to this completely rigged site.
I travelled to Berlin last two months and After i tried to login to my Pokerstar account which i've been using for years. I realized that i got signed out immediately. It was so frustrating. I could gain access to my account with a thousand stars and about EUR in it. I sent series of messages to the support but no reply.
Last week i came across a review of a certain tech expert , webghost33 on telegram who came to my rescue with a few recovery hacks using SQL injections. I was able to retrieve it in 24hours.
It was really worth it and i'm prepared against any keyloggers or account issues in the future. I'm confident i won't have any issues with it again. I highly recomend to everyone to stay away from this pure shit scam. Or do you want to win forexample 10k usd in some tournament? First you need to spend 10k for buy ins then then swich button at your profile and you will have chance to win.
Otherwise you gonna only loose, i can post million of the same ridicilous hands here but its just big wate of time. I blocked my acc. Im living in country when only PS, Partypoker and shit local poker sites are available and i list absolute motivation to play online poker after years experience with PS scammers. Please think twice before you loose all your money for this bitches.
The term rigged implies that the rigger will directly win more than it should. The reality is the rigging is in the very obvious , material and statistically significant excessive occurrence of multiple good hands in a given pot and underdogs getting things like 3 of a kind on a flop where another guy might have a pair or ace. You said it yourself but for some reason didn't acknowledge that that is rigging if the goal is to get the pot as big as possible because I your words it only cares about pot size not who wins.
I agree. Bit a deck of cards poker stars is not. If you google if pokerstars is rigged, first response is from shill, making the "factual" claim, that it just feels rigged because the hands are dealt quicker.
Ridiculous anecdote, not based on fact. Human brain can easily process and account for dealer speed. Why does a list of anecdotes pop up at the top of the search.
TI suspect they use bots, sell your data and continuously bust the all in odds to get losers to buy more chips. That is why they are making money. I came back to poker stars after many years away. Worse than ever. Why play the game when you may as well just flip a coin for your money!! So many set up hands and ridiculous bad beats especially on all ins. Just not believeable. A total ripoff site. I'm done for good this time. In fact, when you play some thousands of hands, you clearly realize that the algorithm grossly repeats some patterns f.
Statistics are totally unconsistent. I just wont to share my stats on poker stars cash games. According to pocker tracker I played hands for now My avg. Absolutely Scam, if you win or withdraw your money they block your accountant that's the time you have to say goodbye to your money because theres is no where you can go to get your money. PokerStars is rigged to incentivise first, then shake you down. Member since , I've actually seen this change happen over time.
To me, with such a long online playing history, it seems so blatantly obvious. Way back when, the site played like real poker. One could say that if you see the pattern, you should be able to beat it. But it's all about retaining new gamblers while shaking trillions of pennies loose.
Brilliant really but unfair to bias games and stakes to benefit new players. Made an account with PokerStars Asia and deposited a small amount to play low stakes. In less than 24 hours they froze my account and that was that, no response to my verification request. Seeing as they've taken it and froze my account and won't respond to me, I'd that amounts to theft right now. Hour and a half in a tournament, get 2 Jacks in hand and 1 on the flop.
Go all in and the one infront of me shows Jack and King. What are the two next cards? Two Kings. I still remember how convenient it was for china players,we could register,deposit and withdrawal directly through 6UP website. Sep , without notice to anyone PokerStars pulling out of the three regions in Asian. The way of dealing with customers is more rude and impersonal. Ridiculous in every possible way. Way to many bas beats, many will say the reason for the bad beats is because its fast, i call bull s.
I have lost thousands of dollars on there because someone would catch on river. For example i had pocket Aa preflop. Everyone folds except for this one player who i see all the time on there playing multiple tables at one time and always has a bunch of money on all tables. And catches a flush on the river.. So its almost like he knew he was winning. This happened to me with about 6 players all the time, all 6 of these players are on there all the time on multiple tables and all have trippled there money.
So in my opinion they all work for pokerstars, and pokerstars is giving them cards so they constantly win.. I always loose all my money with really bad beats that are un heard of. They will not get anymore of my money because if i play i fo to casino for now on.
I always leave tye casino with a poket full if cash when i play texas holdem. But on pokerstars i end up re-dipositing more money only to get bad beat after bad beat. No chance their algorythm isnt bias, just so many flushes, straights, three card games, so no, just imposible.
Yet, river and turn cards are way out any stats, flip coin, I would say. Just pray and wait what happens but its really frustrating to lose repeatedly vs cowboys and bad players who are clueless about poker dynamics or statistics- Defintiviely avoid it if you like a serious poker game, down to sue them anytime tons of data to prove how bias game algorythm is.
Forget about me, or my playing style, knowledge or experience. It does not matter. Actually "Nothing else matters". Whatever the review, people are going to throng pokerstars, and that may include me too. No one will ever know the truth. But whatever is happening, is morally justfied. Ok, cut the crap. This is my review of Pokerstars. There is something going on in Pokerstars, that I say for sure, and I say they have a "moral justification" though the intention is to profit.
It is the same like that Baghdadi guy promising 73 virgins and righteousness in heaven to all the foot soldiers. Only, th efoot soldiers in pokerstars are the "programmers". Guess what the owners would have told them and convinced them? I mean, it could be two things,1. Intentionally ignoring errors, omissions in bias. Who is the loser? How and why? In the End, money keeps coming into pokerstars but will never leave. Just like the Eagles song. Welcome to Hotel Pokerstars.
You can checkout anytime, but you can never leave! Review From Canada, Hey, from Alberta. Anyone with a slight resemblance of a working brain can figure out the site is a scam. Just run some simple tests I have lost there with dozens of bad beats in a row Hi, I have been using Pokerstars for the past few months. The most I won playing 2 days was 5 times the amount.
It only happened when I first made my account. I was flying high but was cautious. Playing for the next 2 days brought my account to half of what I started with. Pokerstar will let you win when you are new, then slowly take away everything. Then I decided to put only a certain amount, play, winn ittle and cash it back into my bank account. This is where the real scam starts. Once you withdraw money, Pokerstar will make sure that you loose rest of the amount as soon as possible.
For example, lost my full house to This is just one example. The guy I lost to had nothing but Ace high in a round with two K on flop and me going all in as I had triplet. Hw TF that guy knew to go all in and getting 2 Aces in the end. This is not just one case.
I have played real live poker alot in my life and I know that no sane player will go all in like that. I believe Pokestars have sponsored players playing along with you who know what cards are gonna open up.
They will keep on bidding higher for flops. It will happen continuously for many rounds and you will be folding continuously saving money. I have not spent a lot of money, but I have understood that Pokerstar is rigged. I have deleted my account with PokerStars in frustration and encouraging my friends to play on a different site.
I am going to keep this short. A lot of players who complain about Poker Stars being rigged are fish. And that is a problem because it discredits good players who also point out that there are major issues with Poker Stars. I do think their tournaments play the way they should.
I made a lot of final tables and the bad beats seem normal in tournaments. I am NOT at all complaining about bad beats in cash games because that is almost impossible to prove or disprove easily and so many bad players who would be losing no matter what complain about bad beats.
Here is the issue however. I am a good player and I have lost relatively little money minus the rake at poker Stars Cash games. But I find it impossible to win even though there are plenty of bad players.
But here is what exposes Poker Stars for the frauds that they are. In their cash games I played over , hand without one serious upswing. I play 6 to 8 tables and about hands a day. Did this for 4 straight months and did NOT once get a bb stack over bb. This lack of upswing variance over this sample size is clearly not a natural phenomena.
That has to be man made. I can prove this too. They have the records and I also have many records. I do see new players and fish who make many buy ins getting big stacks and that is what kept me optimistic for so long.
Also I am a very aggressive player, I am not afraid to jam J J if someone has a weak 3 betting range and 4 bet calling or jamming range. I am considering a law suit. Not to make money for myself but to demand fair playing cash games for strong players.
Their software apparently protects the fish from the sharks, or as one of their CEOs said, they protect the vulnerable. That could be taken several ways, but I am not the only one who noticed that even strong players are not winning much if at all in their cash games and even when there are plenty of weak players in the game.
The whole 50NL Zoom in Europe is said to be so strong that players there make bets on who can break even. Well that is not the case here in the USA, we have plenty of big fish playing, and we do not have Zoom. Here is what I can prove in court, I played over , cash game hands with out a single big upswing and could not even get 50 stack over dollars in the 50 NL cash games. The 30 NL cash games I could get some bigger stacks but that was mostly do to inducing people into making huge bluffs and not because there were two strong hands against each other.
Recently I had A 10 off and there was a huge crazy bluffer in the 50NL. I he 3 bet and I 4 bet to Isolate him while he was out of position. Flop came A 10 6 rainbow. Nice right, well I c bet he called, turn came a I checked he checked.
River came a brick I bet very small 1 4th pot cause I figured he would jam, this guy was a massive fish. The small bet made him Jam. Guess what he had 2 5 suited. I started to realize that the vast majority of my big wins were bluffs, and typically when I made a big hand my opponent had nothing. Stars can put out the right hand distributions over time, but what they do not look at is who gets what and win. I was a Lehigh U physics math major.
I am NOT some fish complaining about bad beats. This is about getting nothing over a huge sample size. Are we being invaded by Russian bots? Are there mysterious ninjas hired to create another rigged river card just for you right before the final table?
I gotta be honest. I can't possibly answer all of these earth shattering questions in a tiny little blog post like this. However, a little bit of common sense should tell us that of course there is some nefarious behaviour going on when anything important such as money is on the line. Humans rig the stock market, they rig elections, they lie on their resumes and they cheat on their high school exams as well.
Heck a decent chunk of them even end up cheating on the person that they swore their wedding vows to! So in short, yes of course there are certain poker sites and individuals out there who are trying to rig the system in their favor when it comes to online poker. You would have to be incredibly naive not to realize this.
But is PokerStars legit? Is there widespread cheating going on across the entire industry, and specifically at the biggest online poker site in the world, PokerStars? Probably not. Here are 5 reasons why. PokerStars is a Money Making Machine The first and most highly obvious reason why PokerStars is probably not rigged is because they are an absolute money making machine. As I have said many times before on this blog the house is always by far the biggest winner in poker.
And PokerStars takes this to an entirely new level. And therefore god only knows how much they were hauling in years ago when poker was really booming. And I personally have made a lot of money on PokerStars as well over the years by using a very simple but effective strategy against all the weak recreational players at low stakes.
In fact, I just made a new video discussing all the common mistakes that many beginners make in these poker games:. And no matter what you think of their new ownership, they continue to crush it in every possible way from a business point of view. So there is simply no plausible motive here. In fact they have every reason in the world NOT to rig it and just keep playing a winning hand over and over again.
And that is that you can actually just go and check it for yourself! PokerStars is one of the few poker sites out there who are very open about what they do. They will in fact actually send you every single hand history that you have ever played on their site.
I know this because I did it myself once. I requested close to 8 million hands that I had played on PokerStars from them.
Within 24 hours I had the links to download them all. This means that I could then go stick those 8 million hands in a tracking program like PokerTracker and run extensive analysis and tests looking for statistical anomalies.
Any legit online poker site like PokerStars is not going to hide anything from you. All the hand histories are available for you to see for yourself. Do you want a simple step by step guide to show you exactly how to start winning consistently right now?
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